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		<title>intel P55 LGA1156 chipset and DDR3 Memory</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first bought an Intel P55 chipset based motherboard and a LGA1156 Core i7 Processor, I thought the safest thing to do would be purchasing Standard memory from a reputable company with JEDEC approved voltage and timings. So I purchased some standard Crucial DDR3-1333&#160; PC3-10600. If you go to crucial’s website and you enter [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first bought an Intel P55 chipset based motherboard and a LGA1156 Core i7 Processor, I thought the safest thing to do would be purchasing Standard memory from a reputable company with JEDEC approved voltage and timings. </p>
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<p>So I purchased some standard Crucial DDR3-1333&#160; PC3-10600.</p>
<p>If you go to crucial’s website and you enter in a P55 motherboard, you will get this suggested memory:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2KIT25664BA1339">CT2KIT25664BA1339</a></p>
<p>I ordered 2 4GB kits, each with with 2 2GB dimms.</p>
<p>The dimms all looked like this:</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="2009-10-09 17.46.09" border="0" alt="2009-10-09 17.46.09" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009100917.46.09.jpg" width="657" height="138" />&#160;</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>here is what CPUZ saw from the SPD of the dimm:</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="crucial" border="0" alt="crucial" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/crucial.png" width="409" height="395" /></p>
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<p>So, everything seemed fine until I started to get random reboots every couple days.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>I tried every possible combination of the dimms, and I always got the same result; hard-reboots.</p>
<p>I felt the odds of all 4 dimms being faulty is roughly zero, so I decided it must be the motherboard, until I started reading <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=20-148-262&amp;SortField=0&amp;SummaryType=0&amp;Pagesize=100&amp;SelectedRating=-1&amp;PurchaseMark=&amp;VideoOnlyMark=False&amp;VendorMark=&amp;Page=1&amp;Keywords=(keywords)">these</a> comments on newegg about my memory.&#160; There are/was a very high percentage of people claiming the memory did not work on their P55 motherboard.</p>
<p>Then I started to see newegg stamp certain memory P55 Core i5/i7 compatible, which didn’t seem to make sense, because any memory that adheres to JEDEC spec for PC3-10600 should be compatible.¿?</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>I found Intel’s own Validation Results for DDR3-1333 on P55 <a href="http://developer.intel.com/technology/memory/ddr/valid/ddr3_nonecc_udimm_results.htm">here</a>.</p>
<p>&#160;<img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="ddr3" border="0" alt="ddr3" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ddr3.png" width="568" height="501" /> </p>
<p>It lists Crucial’s CT25664BA1339, but specifically the CT25664BA1339<strong>.16FF.</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong></p>
<p>Looking closer at my memory I found it to be CT25664BA1339<strong>.M16SFD.</strong></p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="2009-10-09 17.40.42" border="0" alt="2009-10-09 17.40.42" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009100917.40.42.jpg" width="447" height="114" /></p>
<p>for reference this dimm uses micron chips with markings: 9ND22 D9JNM</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/crucial1.png"></a></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
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<p>Crucial said the last string of this part number is for internal use only, and refers to which chip/set is being used on the dimm.&#160; The crucial representative said it should make no difference with respect to P55 compatibility, and was perplexed why Intel would specifically approve the 16FF.&#160; In fact as a consumer you cannot even see what the internal chipset number is before you buy online, but you can call and ask to order a specific one over the phone.</p>
<p>I did just that, and ordered a set of CT25664BA1339<strong>.16FF</strong> over the phone from crucial, they looked like this:</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="2009-10-09 17.41.13" border="0" alt="2009-10-09 17.41.13" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009100917.41.13.jpg" width="855" height="256" /> </p>
<p>Notice the Micron label on the left?&#160; I assume this means the dimm itself was manufactured by Micron, and resold by crucial.</p>
<p>(my other CT25664BA1339<strong>.M16SFD</strong> dimms don’t have a micron sticker.)</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="2009-10-09 17.40.50" border="0" alt="2009-10-09 17.40.50" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009100917.40.50.jpg" width="474" height="111" /> </p>
<p>The CT25664BA1339<strong>.16FF</strong> dimm uses different micron chips marked: 9NF22 D9KPT</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="2009-10-09 17.41.03" border="0" alt="2009-10-09 17.41.03" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009100917.41.03.jpg" width="491" height="103" />&#160;</p>
<p>So the Crucial CT25664BA1339<strong>.16FF</strong> is in fact a Micron MT16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1 dimm.</p>
<p>CPU-Z’s information from the SPD agrees:</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="micron" border="0" alt="micron" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/micron.png" width="408" height="396" /> </p>
<p>It is no surprise that both the Crucial CT25664BA1339.16FF and the Micron MT16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1 <a href="http://developer.intel.com/technology/memory/ddr/valid/ddr3_nonecc_udimm_results.htm">passed Intel’s validation tests</a>, as they are the exact same dimm:</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="ddr3h" border="0" alt="ddr3h" src="http://www.alternativerecursion.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ddr3h.png" width="573" height="504" /> </p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>These new Micron dimms seem to run fine in my system without any problems.</p>
<p>I still don’t know why the P55 chipset/CPUs have problems with the non-16FF crucial dimms.&#160; So I by no means really understand the root of the issue, but I thought others might find this interesting.&#160; </p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>The memory Crucial will send you for a P55 system may not be the memory you want.&#160; </p>
<p>It also seems that many DDR3 kits that seem fine otherwise, do not work right with the P55. </p>
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